‘Silence’ on an object/PC/monster [closed]

Great insight on 'Silence' spell cast on a PC or object? , thanks! We are working with the Essentials kit, do not have the PHB yet so we don’t have the extra details/insight it offers. If ‘Silence’ cannot be cast on an object/PC/monster then can the Cleric move the point of origin based on the concentration factor or must the Cleric concentrate on keeping the same point of origin? Further, I’m not fully understanding why a point of origin perhaps cannot be something fixed like a rock or a fighter’s helmet given the fact that a Cleric is able to cast an Action spell while concentrating on the Silence spell. Thanks for your thoughts.

Is it reasonable to think that most magic users would be familiar with the spell Silence and thus know easy ways to counter it? [closed]

The spell Silence as described in the PHB:

For the Duration, no sound can be created within or pass through a 20-foot-radius Sphere centered on a point you choose within range. Any creature or object entirely inside the Sphere is immune to thunder damage, and creatures are Deafened while entirely inside it. Casting a Spell that includes a verbal component is impossible there.

The spell is obviously a useful tool against magic wielders, but I’m trying to get clarification on its limitations.

Would it be common for magic users to recognize the Silence spell and know easy ways to counter its effects? For example, a wizard familiar with the spell might know to just run a short distance in any direction to leave its area of effect, and then continue casting spells. I understand that different types of characters will have different knowledge of spells, but Silence isn’t a high level spell and would seemingly be well known to many mid- and even low-level magic users.

The related question below might shed light on how a character would react to the Silence spell, because they might instead interpret the effect as being deafened.

Related questions:

Deafness vs Silence – How to distinguish Darkness from being blinded and Silence from being deafened?

‘Silence’ spell cast on a PC or object?

A PC Cleric wants to cast a ‘Silence’ on one of the two PC Fighters in their party so that the Fighters can enter a room to kill orcs without having the noise of the battle alarm orcs in other rooms. As long as the Cleric concentrates on the spell and doesn’t engage in other activities to stop the concentration is this ok? What about casting it on an object that you move around or throw into the midst of a room to eliminate the noise from activity/battle?

Does Silence cancel a readied spell?

The silence spell description states:

For the duration, no sound can be created within or pass through a 20-foot-radius sphere centered on a point you choose within range. Any creature or object entirely inside the sphere is immune to thunder damage, and creatures are deafened while entirely inside it. Casting a spell that includes a verbal component is impossible there.

The rules on readying a spell state:

When you ready a spell, you cast it as normal but hold its energy, which you release with your reaction when the trigger occurs. To be readied, a spell must have a casting time of 1 action, and holding onto the spell’s magic requires concentration. If your concentration is broken, the spell dissipates without taking effect.

Marco the Warlock steps into a teleportation circle with an enemy alhoon hot on his heels. The alhoon decides to ready a disintegrate spell against the first creature it sees when it emerges from the teleportation circle. Meanwhile, Marco uses a magic item to cast silence centered on the other end of the teleportation circle immediately after he emerges. The alhoon steps through the circle and…

Does the alhoon disintegrate Marco because the spell was already cast and just being stored? Or does the alhoon lose the spell because he can no longer produce the verbal component?

How does Counterspell work and can it be used on Silence?

Can Silence be Counterspelled?

Silence: For the duration, no sound can be created within or pass through a 20-foot-radius sphere centered on a point you choose within range. Any creature or object entirely inside the sphere is immune to thunder damage, and creatures are deafened while entirely inside it. Casting a spell that includes a verbal component is impossible there.


Counterspell: You attempt to interrupt a creature in the process of casting a spell. If the creature is casting a spell of 3rd level or lower, its spell fails and has no effect. If it is casting a spell of 4th level or higher, make an ability check using your spellcasting ability. The DC equals 10 + the spell’s level. On a success, the creature’s spell fails and has no effect.

Let’s take a few specific scenarios before you just tell me Yes of course.

Issue 1: First off the NPC would have to know a Silence is being cast. How would they know this until its too late?

Issue 2: Would it depend on position and environment? Say my character is on the other side of the room and there’s melee going on. Likely to not hear. Vs standing next to the NPC Caster and its quiet. I guess in that case they could potentially understand what spell I’m doing?

Issue 3: Would having Silence themselves play a role? What I mean here is I could see if a Wizard NPC has Silence and Counterspell ready then perhaps they recognize Silence as I cast it. If they don’t know Silence though then how would they know what random draconic I’m uttering?


Some of this may be broader mechanics of Counterspell – namely should the DM know what’s being cast before deciding to Counterspell and how would they? And specifically how, if at all, could it be used on Silence?


Backstory for anyone that may care: DM was telling us all week to be ready for an epic fight because we hadn’t had one in a while. She rolled low on initiative and I rolled well enough. I cast Silence and she did not counterspell it. She was then all bummed because we killed the Wizard before he could get a single hit off (our Fighter crit him and Paladin knocked him prone). She blames herself for not using Counterspell. The more I think about it though the more I don’t know how she should even be able to have used Counterspell.

Can a Sorcerer use the Silence spell and the Subtle Spell Metamagic to silently cast the Knock spell?

The knock spell has a verbal spell component and states:

[…] When you cast the spell, a loud knock, audible from as far away as 300 feet, emanates from the target object […]

I’m wondering if you can get around this loud noise by casting the silence spell, which states:

For the duration, no sound can be created within or pass through a 20-foot-radius sphere centered on a point you choose within range. Any creature or object entirely inside the sphere is immune to thunder damage, and creatures are deafened while entirely inside it. Casting a spell that includes a verbal component is impossible there.

You would ordinarily not be able to cast knock as it has a verbal component, but the Sorcerer’s Subtle Spell Metamagic states:

When you cast a spell, you can spend 1 sorcery point to cast it without any somatic or verbal components.

So could a Sorcerer cast silence and then a Subtle Spell knock? Do these all combine thus letting you cast knock without the loud noise being created, or is there some interaction or rule I’ve overlooked? Does this scenario actually work?

Can you cast Dispel Magic on a Shadow Monk’s Silence?

Let’s say a Wizard is outside the range of a 3rd Level Shadow Monk’s Silence, casted via Ki points.

Can he dispel it?

My gut inclination is that the Wizard can indeed dispel the Shadow Monk’s Silence despite it not being technically a spell, due to the Sage Advice Compendium containing this ruling:

  • Is it a spell? Or does it let you create the effects of a spell that’s mentioned in its description?

[…]

If any one of these questions can be answer “yes”, then the effect, ability or item is magical for the purposes of being affected by magic cancelling effects.

Now, consider the Shadow Monk’s Shadow Arts Feature:

Shadow Arts

You can use your ki to duplicate the effects of certain spells. As an action, you can spend 2 ki points to cast darkness, darkvision, pass without trace, or silence, without providing material components. Additionally, you gain the minor illusion cantrip if you don’t already know it.

Seems clear enough. However, the only reason I’m unsure is due to to the “best answer” selected to this question, “Does ki count as magic for the purpose of an antimagic field, or is it only fluff?”

That answer seems to conclude that Ki Magic is NOT in fact magical. (Note that the second answer, which is more highly rated, concluding that it IS in fact magical.)

I’m likely to face this specific, niche situation in an upcoming session I’m running and I want a clear, community consensus on how to resolve this specific problem. Other examples and evidence are extremely welcome as well.

Would Ventriloquism into a silence field allow you to cast silently?

I know Ventriloquism is an arcane spell and silence divine, so normally most people wouldnt be able to cast both without needing magic items or such.

But if you were to use Ventriloquism to throw your voice into a silence field, would that work? You are still casting the spell, its just that Ventriloquism makes it seem like its coming from somewhere else.

Does the spell “Silence” affect the caster?

While I was DMing a 5th Edition game, one of my player’s sorcerers cast the spell Silence while they were 5 feet away from an enemy caster. They centered the spell on the space that the enemy caster was in, and a round of combat finished. On the sorcerer’s turn, they asked me if they could use a verbal spell while in the Silence area. Their reasoning is that they had cast the spell, so they could prevent it from affecting them.

In this situation, I decided to not allow it because it would unbalance the spell. But I want to know what other people would think about this.

So would the user of the Silence spell be able to prevent it from affecting themselves?

Media volume drops after silence in music

Whenever there is a long enough pause (meaning silence, not that I pause the music) in my music or other audio I’m listening to the volume drops and fades back in when the music or media starts again. It seems like some kind of overly aggressive hearing protection, but who knows. It happens with all apps I’ve tried, but it doesn’t happen if I’m using my bluetooth audio speakers in my car. Phone is a Nokia 6.0, Android version is 9. Anybody know if this can be disabled?