I have trouble understanding the details of the full scope of the Southern Magician feat in conjuction with the Arcane Disciple feat:
Southern Magician [General]
(…) Benefit: Once per day per two spellcaster levels, you can cast a divine spell as an arcane spell, or vice versa. This enables you to bypass arcane spell failure due to armor, or gain additional benefit from spell that functions differently for a divine caster instead of an arcane caster, such as true seeing or magic weapon. (…)
The actual source of the spell’s power doesn’t change, nor does its means of preparation. You are merely weaving the strands of magic together in an unconventional way that makes the spell behave somewhat differently. [[Emphasis mine]]
Arcane Disciple [General]
(…)Benefit: Add the chosen domain’s spells to your class list of arcane spells. If you have arcane spellcasting ability from more than one class, you must pick which arcane spellcasting ability this feat applies to. Once chosen, this decision cannot be changed for that feat.
You may learn these spells as normal for your class; however, you use Wisdom (rather than the normal ability for your spellcasting) when determining the save DC for the spell. In addition, you must have a Wisdom score equal to 10 + the spell’s level in order to prepare or cast a spell gained from this feat. Each day, you may prepare (or cast, if you cast spells without preparation) a maximum of one of these domains spells of each level. (…) [[Emphasis mine]]
My questions would be:
- Does the emphasised “cast as arcane” have an impact on casting attribute from the Arcane Disciple feat. Eg: would a divine magic missile be controlled by the divine or arcane casting attribute? And an arcane sanctuary?
Obviously I’m looking at the angle, that if the casting attribute is based on the spell being divine or arcane, would mean that – with Southern Magician & Arcane Disciple combined – you would in the end of the day just gain add additional arcane spells to your spell book thus being freed from your divine casting attribute. Granted, just for a number of times / day.
I have trouble understanding the details of the full scope of the Southern Magician feat:
Southern Magician [General]
Your magical studies in Mulan lands have taught you spellcasting techniques unknown in the north that blur the line between arcane and divine magic.
Prerequisite: Mulan human, ability to cast 2nd-level spells.
Benefit: Once per day per two spellcaster levels, you can cast a divine spell as an arcane spell, or vice versa. This enables you to bypass arcane spell failure due to armor, or gain additional benefit from spell that functions differently for a divine caster instead of an arcane caster, such as true seeing or magic weapon.
Spells changed with this feat are often confusing to whose who haven’t studied Mulan magic. Spellcasters who don’t have this feat suffer a –4 penalty on attempts to counterspell or dispel this spell, and they must succeed at a caster level check (DC 11 + spell level) to detect the spell with detect magic.
The actual source of the spell’s power doesn’t change, nor does its means of preparation. You are merely weaving the strands of magic together in an unconventional way that makes the spell behave somewhat differently.
My questions would be:
- Does a pure wizard with this feat qualify for Theurge type classes, as he can cast divine spells at the same leve (eg: Geomancer or Mystic Teurge after level 3)?
- Combined with the Arcane disciple feat, does it enable you to cast the obtained domain classes based on intelligence (as you cast the divine spells as arcane)?
Am I missing anything else, is my understanding seriously off?
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